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Post by ch3mist on Oct 19, 2013 12:31:12 GMT
Although I can't read the full content, but I reckon she is pissed over the promotion of Moka and not herself. What's next, she wants to demand for senbatsu spot next? Since she is highly unlikely to make senbatsu for another year or so. MioMeru are HKT Senbatsu, Ryoha is SKE Senbatsu, it's time for Nagisa to get into it as well. In SKE's Senbatsu I can name plenty of members I'd kick out in an instant; but for NMB's Senbatsu there's nobody I anti so it's hard to drop someone. Maybe you're taking this article too serious I don't think it's that cocky though.
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Post by cakama on Oct 19, 2013 12:53:26 GMT
MioMeru are HKT Senbatsu, Ryoha is SKE Senbatsu, it's time for Nagisa to get into it as well. In SKE's Senbatsu I can name plenty of members I'd kick out in an instant; but for NMB's Senbatsu there's nobody I anti so it's hard to drop someone. Maybe you're taking this article too serious I don't think it's that cocky though. Srsly Meru/Mio is Senbatsu even before Tentoumu Chu!..... Ryoha is being pushed that I admit...but that because SKE48 is adjusting for Chpt2... But Namba is still having very strong chapter 1, the queue list for Under is so long that Nagisa's name can't even be seen. ShimaRena, Saepii, Haru, Rika, Yuuri, Jo.... thats 6 name before her. I think I'm already taking it with plenty of salt already, Nagisa have been trying to compete herself with the rest of Tentoumu Chu! without consisting the situation of her own group. If anyone should be openly asking to formation for Team 4II, it should be the 2nd gen KKS like Yuumin doing the asking. Not a barely year old 4th gen... If its Ryoha in the similar situation you would have whine at her already....
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Post by ch3mist on Oct 19, 2013 13:59:42 GMT
But Namba is still having very strong chapter 1, the queue list for Under is so long that Nagisa's name can't even be seen. If anyone should be openly asking to formation for Team 4II, it should be the 2nd gen KKS like Yuumin doing the asking. Not a barely year old 4th gen... If its Ryoha in the similar situation you would have whine at her already.... So it's ok for Meru to being pushed into infinity even though she's just a member for a year now but for Nagisa it's wrong? I get your point and sure it's way too early but hating on Nagisa for saying such things but fully supporting Meru's push or Ryoha's ridiculous Senbatsu spot after barely half a year is double standards. I doubt the article is naive brat-talk though, would he heavily disappointing from Nagisa and I don't see why the management would let her say such things without their approval. Haha it's no point for me to rant about Ryoha she's a KKS who enters Senbatsu and kicks out one of the best SKE performers like Yukko, I'm done with that girl.
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Post by cakama on Oct 19, 2013 14:37:10 GMT
So it's ok for Meru to being pushed into infinity even though she's just a member for a year now but for Nagisa it's wrong? I get your point and sure it's way too early but hating on Nagisa for saying such things but fully supporting Meru's push or Ryoha's ridiculous Senbatsu spot after barely half a year is double standards. I doubt the article is naive brat-talk though, would he heavily disappointing from Nagisa and I don't see why the management would let her say such things without their approval. Haha it's no point for me to rant about Ryoha she's a KKS who enters Senbatsu and kicks out one of the best SKE performers like Yukko, I'm done with that girl. Yes, its actually alright for Meru to be pushed like no tomorrow and nobody can hate her for it... Cos she is Aki-P's favorite, Nagisa isn't... simple and easy explanation.... The issue here is Meru/Ryoha didn't open their big mouth and quoted they want to be pushed or they want to be senbatsu..... Nagisa did open her big mouth... You know why Ryoho can easily kick Yukko out, if you remember me saying that Yukko is already on her way out of senbatsu when you were comparing her with Yuria? I have precognition remember Apart from that, I already know management is done with Yukko and Yukko is done with them. Hence she is busy going outside auditions for her personal career now. Cos of the golden trio, she doesn't have the attraction power and popularity level of both Dasu and Yuria... and she have been senbatsu for 5x... Ryoha will be in regardless, she is an unofficial Team S DRAFT member, not a normal KKS anymore. But Ryoha excel in both visual and character department of being an idol, which is the first and foremost for Aki-P and the theater mgrs' selection criteria. You know before I even get to read the article, I have to go through tons of NMB48 WOTA giving their piece of mind about the matter with plenty of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at the end of each statement. P.S We all don't hate Nagisa.......yet.... but if she continue such destructive route... who knows what will happen in the future
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Post by ch3mist on Oct 19, 2013 23:42:18 GMT
Yes, its actually alright for Meru to be pushed like no tomorrow and nobody can hate her for it... Cos she is Aki-P's favorite, Nagisa isn't... simple and easy explanation.... The issue here is Meru/Ryoha didn't open their big mouth and quoted they want to be pushed or they want to be senbatsu..... Nagisa did open her big mouth... You know before I even get to read the article, I have to go through tons of NMB48 WOTA giving their piece of mind about the matter with plenty of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at the end of each statement. I'm fine with Meru's push. I don't rly care for Ryoha's but I'd appreciate Nagisa's. Ye well I still don't know what exactly she said but if it's such a big deal why is nobody on S48 talking about it at all? I didn't say anything vs Ryoha's abilities/potential, while Yukko's curve is declining Ryoha's is flying high I'm aware of that but IDK if it's necessary to add a KKS into the Senbatsu after half a year when there are still a handful of Sousenkyo ranked members who would deserve a spot as well. It's not like Ryoha's running out of time. It's just a matter of time when she'll be a fixed senbatsu member for every SKE activity. Besides all that maybe I should just focus and be happy about the few good thinks (like Ayachan being Senbatsu) rather than tunnel viewing on negative aspects (Renacchi UG center, Mariyagi out of UG, Yukko out of Senbatsu etc)
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Post by cakama on Oct 19, 2013 23:53:58 GMT
I'm fine with Meru's push. I don't rly care for Ryoha's but I'd appreciate Nagisa's. Ye well I still don't know what exactly she said but if it's such a big deal why is nobody on S48 talking about it at all? I didn't say anything vs Ryoha's abilities/potential, while Yukko's curve is declining Ryoha's is flying high I'm aware of that but IDK if it's necessary to add a KKS into the Senbatsu after half a year when there are still a handful of Sousenkyo ranked members who would deserve a spot as well. It's not like Ryoha's running out of time. It's just a matter of time when she'll be a fixed senbatsu member for every SKE activity. Besides all that maybe I should just focus and be happy about the few good thinks (like Ayachan being Senbatsu) rather than tunnel viewing on negative aspects (Renacchi UG center, Mariyagi out of UG, Yukko out of Senbatsu etc) Cos if I'm not mistaken, none of us who read it on Japanese media is posting in STAGE even Smilodon.... so most of those floating newbies on Stage is pretty much out of the loop. Not to mentioned Namba have the smallest amount of members (active and not) on Stage even losing to JKT48. Ryoha is not a KKS, she is an unofficial DRAFT member. The way DRAFT member works is unlike KKS who have to take queue number and wait, they get first class treatment. Even the members are treating her as a Team S member, not a KKS anymore. Sousenkyo is nothing to the management, its more of a money tree than anything, not like they will bother with what the fans wants. They have their own planning. And she is not the only KKS ever been on Senbatsu too, Saya is the other one. SKE48 is forging a Kami7 out of Ryoha, so her path is completely different from members like Mako and Nagisa, she is the other Meru. Out of the current SKE48 Kami 7, Rena & Dasu is getting into the graduation age and with Rena keen to go full time on acting, they need to prepare the successor asap cos it takes time for them to sit well as a Kami7. Like YuiParu's case sitting in for Mariko and Tomochin. Yup maybe, life is much simpler that way... Be happy and don't need to take such things so hard anymore.
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Post by ch3mist on Oct 26, 2013 18:09:22 GMT
Video by AKB's theater manager:
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Video by Yuiri after today's stage. Kids inhaling helium and Naanya keeps clingin onto Yuiri. I haven't seen these two together before. I wonder if Yuiri ever wrote s/th about Naanya in her G+ since I haven't seen any translations for her. cakama benstack
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Post by cakama on Oct 27, 2013 13:26:51 GMT
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Post by cakama on Oct 28, 2013 15:32:44 GMT
Provisional KKS Tatsuya Makiho and Ookawa Rio have been promoted to full AKB48 15th generation kenkyuusei today
達家真姫宝 - Tatsuya Makiho (Left) 大川莉央 - Ookawa Rio (Right) High profile former Provisional KKS: Oba Mina (for 7th gen), Kamieda Emika (for 13th gen) Kenkyuusei tag: benstack ch3mist oshiri kanonno rina
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Post by ch3mist on Oct 28, 2013 17:11:54 GMT
Provisional KKS Tatsuya Makiho and Ookawa Rio have been promoted to full AKB48 15th generation kenkyuusei today Lol who? Never heard these names before. Where do they come from now?
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Post by cakama on Oct 28, 2013 17:15:52 GMT
Lol who? Never heard these names before. Where do they come from now? From the backup kenkyuusei pool, every generation have their own backup pool for those who just borderline fail the auditions. So they are ready replacements in case of a call up. I reckon the validity is 12mths, then the pool is released.
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Post by ch3mist on Oct 28, 2013 17:21:58 GMT
From the backup kenkyuusei pool, every generation have their own backup pool for those who just borderline fail the auditions. So they are ready replacements in case of a call up. I reckon the validity is 12mths, then the pool is released. I didn't know of a thing like a 'backup pool' What about the HKT KKS who graduated before getting promoted, why didn't they get replaced by backups? Oh well once I got to know all AKB KKS there are two more, keeps things interesting.
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Post by cakama on Oct 28, 2013 17:38:34 GMT
I didn't know of a thing like a 'backup pool' What about the HKT KKS who graduated before getting promoted, why didn't they get replaced by backups? Oh well once I got to know all AKB KKS there are two more, keeps things interesting. Cos its hardly ever utilized... Most of the time there is already too much KKS from the audition, where the management only need less than half of them... I'm not sure why they choose to call up backup to 15th gen, since they are likely never going to be promoted anytime soon... cos no AKB48 don't need a Team 8... Even if half of the current A, K, B members graduates now, once Team 4 disband to fill up there are still oversized.... (+ DRAFT members) Nah, I believe Sasshi is waiting for those unfavored 2nd gen to faster pick up the bags and leaves... why fill up HKT48 KKS when Sasshi already write off most than half of them already. Yes its harsh, but that reality. With 3rd gen going to be announced in Nov, its at least going to be another 20+ KKS coming in... it will be the biggest KKS layout in the history of 48G...
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Post by ch3mist on Oct 28, 2013 17:50:46 GMT
Cos its hardly ever utilized... I'm not sure why they choose to call up backup to 15th gen, since they are likely never going to be promoted anytime soon... cos no AKB48 don't need a Team 8...With 3rd gen going to be announced in Nov, its at least going to be another 20+ KKS coming in... it will be the biggest KKS layout in the history of 48G... They could transfer 8 HKT KKS to AKB for a proper KKS theater stage. (Ye well not gonna happen but it would be fun ^^ ) Hm 15th gen KKS don't have much to do in the upcoming months, right? They could only perform as under/backup dancer for certain AKB stages. __ Hmm they have to form KIV with the vast amount of KKS they'll have with the 3rd gen. I guess the 2nd anniversairy concert would be the perfect event to announce the team formation. That should be somehwere in the end of novemvber; I haven't read any news about such a concert though.
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Post by cakama on Oct 28, 2013 18:11:05 GMT
They could transfer 8 HKT KKS to AKB for a proper KKS theater stage. (Ye well not gonna happen but it would be fun ^^ ) Hm 15th gen KKS don't have much to do in the upcoming months, right? They could only perform as under/backup dancer for certain AKB stages. __ Hmm they have to form KIV with the vast amount of KKS they'll have with the 3rd gen. I guess the 2nd anniversairy concert would be the perfect event to announce the team formation. That should be somehwere in the end of novemvber; I haven't read any news about such a concert though. I'm not sure what is the planning for 15th gen, cos apart from Team 4, the rest don't need them anymore after the DRAFT (actually Yui and Umechan already don't want them around and it sharing member between both team) Maybe 15th gen will break up into DRAFT members as well... There isn't 2nd anniversary concert... just maybe Team H will perform on Nov 26 as their own 2nd year anniversary like KKS did for their 1st.... Even when Team KIV is formed, there will still be close to 20+ KKS remaining.... and for those 1st and 2nd gen ones... I doubt they will ever get promoted unless they improved leaps and bounds.... if you aren't making it to KIV despite being 1st and 2nd gen, then I see no reason why Sasshi will let them through into Team T..... also 4th gen HKT48 audition should be taking place next summer... Sasshi is trying not to repeat the same mistake of other groups causing the last team to be miles behind the rest that even with Team Shuffle it can't be resolved... Team E is still the weakest team in SKE48 even after the shuffle, as to Team B, and forever BII.... Team T will end up the same if Sasshi just go with promoting for the sake of having a third team...
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Post by ch3mist on Oct 28, 2013 19:00:33 GMT
I'm not sure what is the planning for 15th gen, cos apart from Team 4, the rest don't need them anymore after the DRAFT (actually Yui and Umechan already don't want them around and it sharing member between both team) Maybe 15th gen will break up into DRAFT members as well... There isn't 2nd anniversary concert... just maybe Team H will perform on Nov 26 as their own 2nd year anniversary like KKS did for their 1st.... Team E is still the weakest team in SKE48 even after the shuffle, as to Team B, and forever BII.... Team T will end up the same if Sasshi just go with promoting for the sake of having a third team...DRAFT is still confusing; 15th gen members who have alrdy performed on stage for half a year improved a whole lot ever since then. Draft are some nugu inexperience girls for now. Why is there no 2nd anniversairy concert, there was a 1st anniv. concert and NMB also had their 3rd anniv. concert. What's wrong with a 2nd y anniv. concert for HKT
After watching a lot of team M performances lately the difference between M and BII is huuuge. And Nagisa's comment about 4II formation isn't that far off; NMB KKS have a solid level of performance, compared to BII they have more solid performers they're only lacking in popularity to make this work, BII back row is still weak while the 4th gen KKS catching up fast. Jo's return could catalyse this improvement + gaining popularity and 4II doesn't seem to be impossible anymore. Well it would still be stupid to make a fourth team as long as the 3rd is still so far behind the first two.
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Post by cakama on Oct 28, 2013 19:37:21 GMT
DRAFT is still confusing; 15th gen members who have alrdy performed on stage for half a year improved a whole lot ever since then. Draft are some nugu inexperience girls for now. Why is there no 2nd anniversairy concert, there was a 1st anniv. concert and NMB also had their 3rd anniv. concert. What's wrong with a 2nd y anniv. concert for HKT
After watching a lot of team M performances lately the difference between M and BII is huuuge. And Nagisa's comment about 4II formation isn't that far off; NMB KKS have a solid level of performance, compared to BII they have more solid performers they're only lacking in popularity to make this work, BII back row is still weak while the 4th gen KKS catching up fast. Jo's return could catalyse this improvement + gaining popularity and 4II doesn't seem to be impossible anymore. Well it would still be stupid to make a fourth team as long as the 3rd is still so far behind the first two. Thats what you are really mistaken about DRAFT, you really think they will just pick a novice off the road and put them as candidates? Yes 15th gen have performed for 6mth, so? Big deal... Some of the DRAFT candidates have been training for more than 6yrs and have taken so many 48G audition before. Yes they may have not make it back then, but even now while 15th gen is shaking legs, every single days the DRAFT candidates is going through hell camp in the studio... 1st anniversary is not even a concert, its just a WEncore Theater stage. 1st gen will be performing on 26th for sure. The current HKT48 do not have the milestones deserving to have a full concert to celebrate their anniversary. Its still a joke that KIV can't be formed with 2nd gen along, its disgracing enough, so what its their 2nd years, nothing much really have changed from the first right? So technically its just one year passed without any big stuffs going on. The problem is Aki-P do not want to have Team 4II, in fact he doesn't really want to have Team 4 again if not for Minegishi's return. Technically only the trio is in the planning for Chapt 2, the rest is just well... since they have been around for ages and due to another poor planning by AKS on deciding how much KKS to keep. One reason why I don't think they will have any AKB48 or SKE48 group audition next year, what's the point when there is at most only 10 members old enough to graduate. Same to Namba, Nana is the oldest at 21, its would take at least 2-3yrs before she would even need to consider graduations. Same to Hakata for the future, it would be at least 5-6yrs before there is a graduation trend, so if any KKS that fails to make it into the Teams might as well graduate and find another path cos they can't get promoted for 5-6yrs. Thats the problem 48G is facing, if Aki-P allows every group to have a 4II, soon they will take in KKS and be forced to have a 8II, then more and more? Its already 250+ members in Japan, pushing it any higher would break the idol bubble and it will damage the entire industry. Already 13 singles release a year is causing fans to give up a lot of their funding, to have more teams means more expenses and they will be forced to throw out more single releases and theater. Of cos that wouldn't impact Int. fans, but instead of getting full house at the theater, they will be struggling to fill the theaters cos there is just too much supply and not that much demand. 48G fanbase haven't really grown since 2010, its just forcing the same population to buy more every year... You should get an idea how dead is the Int. fanbase now? There is just casual fans who like certain members, and that about it. True fan base have declined to a very pitiful level now. I don't see any merit for a Namba Team 4 except to fulfill Nagisa's selfish request to get herself promoted cos she is not even in the running.
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Post by cakama on Oct 31, 2013 21:42:41 GMT
Eriko Jo's shonichi as Kenyuusei will be held on 6th November 2013NMB48 tag: benstack ch3mist
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Post by ch3mist on Nov 6, 2013 14:05:28 GMT
Eriko Jo's shonichi as Kenyuusei will be held on 6th November 2013 Oh snap I was watching that stage since 'Blue Rose' and I just noticed JO's there. Totally forgot about this. I have to take a closer look about Jo's positioning in group performances. Right now during 'Virgin Love' she's 2nd row behind Nagisa. The more NMB KKS stages I watch the more kawaii Chihhii appeals.
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Post by cakama on Nov 6, 2013 15:51:27 GMT
Oh snap I was watching that stage since 'Blue Rose' and I just noticed JO's there. Totally forgot about this. I have to take a closer look about Jo's positioning in group performances. Right now during 'Virgin Love' she's 2nd row behind Nagisa. The more NMB KKS stages I watch the more kawaii Chihhii appeals. Don't expect any major push for Jo for at least another 6-8mths, cos NMB48 management is trying not to create discontentment in the group. Her return without an audition is already getting pissed upon by many, including members. There have been plenty of rejoining, but Jo is the only one who doesn't go through any form of audition or fan votes.
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