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Post by cakama on Sept 2, 2013 22:24:46 GMT
What's wrong with Pandora? I liked it a lot more than Mister. But I also like Pandora more than Damaged Lady. benstackNothing really wrong with Pandora, just its not that well-received by the public and its the 2nd fastest fading single by top girl groups, just below AS... Guess KARA label just don't sell anymore... Update on Damaged Lady #10 on Melon (-4) #06 on Mnet (+1) #03 on Bugs (+3) #07 on Olleh (-1) #03 on Soribada (+1) #07 on Naver (-1) #04 on Daum (+3) #Unranked on Cyworld (- alot) #06 on Monkey3 (-2) I'm not trying to be negative here... but seems to be KARA's perk have long past and there are now well... just slide down to irrelevant... Such results is of a Class B/C... They are losing ground on both Japan and Korea.... IDK... maybe its time to retire the KARA while there is still some glory to it?
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Post by hinata on Sept 6, 2013 16:17:27 GMT
It seems like Kara is going on the same road as T-ara, have you guys seen the recent NB articles... Hara and Jiyoung's outburst of tears on 'Radio Star' disturb viewers
Article: 'Radio Star' Goo Hara cries at dating-idol teasing "It really makes me mad"
Source: OSEN via Nate [1] [2]
1. [+1,304, -85] The way Han Seungyeon got mad in that situation as well pissed me off even more....
2. [+1,269, -96] Kyuhyun obviously looked so taken aback, his facial expression got all hardened..ㅡ.,ㅡ Did she seriously throw a water bottle in front of so many huge seniors? What's the point of even coming out on the show if she's going to act like that? It's not like she doesn't know what the show's about
3. [+859, -53] This is the first time I changed the channel while watching Radio Star. I never really cared for KARA or hated on them in particular but their attitude was so ridiculous. I could feel the MCs in shock and Kyuhyun's anger. Park Jin Young was there as well, so many industry seniors, and they dare to act with such disrespect? They need to be taught immediately, Goo Hara and Han Seungyeon especially. They're so disrespectful.
4. [+521, -25] Wow... I'm not a Suju or KARA fan and maybe it's just because I'm old now.. but seeing Park Jin Young with his experience and stature acting humble on a variety show like this and laughing off any personal attacks made by the MCs made me seriously question who Goo Hara thought she was making the MCs feel uncomfortable and throwing a water bottle like that. Kyuhyun is her senior.
5. [+467, -28] I really am not the type to leave comments like this.. but I'm just too angry. Exactly who do Goo Hara and Han Seungyeon think they are to go around acting like that? At a place with seniors like Park Jinyoung, they sit around screaming and crying at their own mistakes, accusing Kyuhyun of not being able to be proud of his own past. And why is Goo Hara's face so unnatural? Her eyes are all swollen and it's obvious she got something done with her lips... If Goo Hara doesn't want to be under controversy for dating, then please act with pride yourself.
6. [+109, -3] Made me realize what a humble person Park Jin Young is today
7. [+390, -16] What happened to Goo Hara? From her personality to her face... and it was ridiculous how Han Seungyeon took her side while she was crying. I could also notice the girls making fun of the MCs throughout the show. It's ridiculous that such a disrespectful girl like that earns $600,000 per CF. Empty headed with no talent whatsoever as a singer. And why was Kang Jiyoung even crying? Seems like these girls think they're worth sh*t just for becoming a bit popular. Park Jin Young was there as well, who do they think they are?
8. [+389, -17] Another episode since Krystal's where I felt uncomfortable watching a TV show ㅋㅋㅋ Kids these days, seriously ㅋㅋㅋ Goo Hara, I heard you bought a million dollar building. If you made that much money without having any talents whatsoever, you can handle things like this without crying.
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Source: Naver
1. [+7,668, -377] I was so taken aback while watching TV... She cried and ruined the atmosphere over something that wasn't even a big deal
2. [+6,997, -272] Yup, this girl's a mess.. she thinks crying will shield her from disses.
3. [+6,264, -258] Obviously something's up for her to be crying like that. Kyuhyun and the other MCs looked so awkward. And who does Han Seungyeon think she is butting in like that? Such a mess
4. [+3,146, -94] An awesome display of broadcast attitude ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Forget the crying, why did she even throw the water bottle?
5. [+2,921, -92] Why agree to the show if you're going to sit there and cry. Nobody even made a big deal out of it and she's squeezing out tears.
6. [+2,826, -82] Never come out on TV. I don't want to see your face ever again. You think you're a princess? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ So disrespectful
7. [+2,738, -75] It was hilarious how hard Han Seungyeon took it ㅋㅋㅋ
8. [+2,666, -67] Crying won't make your dating controversy go away. And you obviously fully know that Radio Star is a diss program so what did you think would happen if you cried? Cry all you want, cry for 100 days, your controversy isn't going away.
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Article: Kang Jiyoung's tears "I don't have aegyo but people keep making me do it"
Source: Newsen via Nate
1. [+753, -28] Never in my life have I seen someone cry for such ridiculous reasons. She did aegyo just fine in Japan when they never even asked her for it. Why do these girls think it's okay to make viewers uncomfortable watching them? Do they think that they're that big of a top star?
2. [+721, -25] What do Goo Hara, Jiyoung, and Seungyeon think they're doing? ㅋ Crying over being ordered to do aegyo, screaming at seniors, crying over being asked a question ㅋㅋ Do they think the viewers are idiots? Fu*k, KARA made me lose all interest in watching Radio Star today
3. [+643, -16] They should've prepared more.. I'm pretty sure they ran over these interview questions beforehand as well. If they want to receive top star treatment, they should stay in Japan ㅡㅡ I really don't leave comments on articles like this but they really crossed the line today. So disappointed in Hara and Jiyoung. I felt like I was sitting on a mat of needles while watching the episode. ㅡㅡ
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Post by hinata on Sept 6, 2013 16:30:31 GMT
Seungyeon talks about her acting controversy with 'Jang Ok Jung' Wednesday, September 04, 2013 kara, radio star, seungyeon 271 comments
Article: 'Radio Star' Han Seungyeon honestly confesses, "My acting in 'Jang Ok Jung' was lacking"
Source: OSEN via Nate
"I heard positive and negative reviews about my acting. There were even some comments saying how they just looked at my face and thought of me as mean. It was my acting that was lacking. I think people found it awkward to see my face on the TV screen. I've lived six years as KARA's Seungyeon and I think it's awkward for them to see me with other actors now."
1. [+412, -7] She kept going on and on about how people will find it awkward to see her acting on TV since she's a singer, but dear, it's not because you're a singer, it's because your acting sucks.
2. [+404, -22] She's so busy beating around the bush to save herself ㅋ She thinks that people have a bias against her, not because she sucks? Then what does that make Jung Eunji? Or Park Yoochun? Or Yoona? Why don't people hate on them for their acting? Yeah, people are biased against you but you also really suck at acting.
3. [+360, -9] Sounds like she's saying it's the viewer's fault for finding her awkward ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Why is she blaming the viewers instead of thinking about how bad she is... Seungyeon-ah, monitor your acting first.
4. [+26, -4] You really think people find you awkward only because you're an idol? Then do you think we think of Jung Eunji has a trot singer??
5. [+21, -3] The thing is, she's not that great of a singer either.-----------Follow Up: Things continue to look grim for KARA despite apologiesThursday, September 05, 2013 kara, radio star 725 comments
Article: Goo Hara's old attitude controversy during her days as 'Inkigayo' MC resurfaces Source: X Sports News via Nate1. [+2,519, -80] I bet Park Jin Young was looking at them yesterday like, "You're really going to act like top stars when you aren't even worth half of what WG was at their height?" ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ2. [+2,467, -98] Seems like KARA is just like T-ara in having members full of disgusting tempers3. [+2,220, -75] Seems like it's true that idols all go around dating each other seeing as how pissed Goo Hara got when it was mentioned-Article: KARA's Jiyoung... aegyo attitude controversy comes back when it's found that she said yes to Yoo Jae Suk's request 2 years ago but no to Kim Gura today...
Source: TV Report via Nate1. [+4,625, -104] An article that hits the nail on the head ㅋㅋㅋ Kang Jiyoung's over now ㅋㅋㅋ2. [+3,740, -95] Is she acting like this because she thinks she's popular now? Stop pushing your visuals and improve your singing. You're getting paid to promote yourselves on variety shows... yeah, it must be SO difficult to do some aegyo once in a while. Go back to your roots.3. [+253, -7] Jiyoung's going to get so much hate when she does aegyo on TV anymore ㅋㅋㅋ -Article: Goo Hara's reps respond to attitude controversy, "The reason she cried? She felt pressured by the attention on her dating rumors"Source: Mydaily via Naver1. [+9,914, -660] Yeah, you guys are over2. [+7,507, -247] If this was in the past, Kim Gura would've thrown the script cards at your faces... He would've told you to quit your damn careers if you're going to act like that on TV. Be glad that you met him only after he cleaned up his act. Do you know how many kids would die for a chance to do aegyo on a show like that? I bet you guys don't even remember your nugu days when you did anything and everything asked of you for screentime.3. [5,552, -202] Never did I imagine that KARA would be taking T-ara's spot.......4. [+3,642, -90] KARA's seriously fu*king insane... If you're going to act like that on TV, go back to Japan and don't ever come back to Korea. You know why top stars are popular? They know when to let their image go when it's necessary.5. [+3,104, -42] They brought it upon themselves ㅋㅋㅋㅋ-Article: Han Seungyeon apologizes for 'Radio Star controversy', "I'm reflecting over my unprofessional attitude, I'm sorry"Source: Sports Chosun via Nate1. [+1,254, -117] You girls aren't pros anyway ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Wow, I seriously thought you were an iljin yesterday2. [+1,132, -124] Don't care about your apology, it's too late ^^ See you, KARA... back to Japan you go3. [+1,098, -114] I think it's already over for you guys.......4. [+85, -26] You guys are now on the same level/rivals with T-ara5. [+82, -6] It was pretty much game over for them once Kim Gura told them that they 'grew up' a lot, talking like top stars and all. Kim Gura never said that to any idol and you can see he was disgruntled with them. -Article: Despite attitude controversy, KARA smiles brightly with a group selca in 'M! Countdown' waiting room Source: E-News via Nate1. [+1,620, -51] Seems like they haven't read the comments in the Radio Star article yet. This is really not the time to be uploading pictures like this.2. [+1,440, -58] I hate them so much3. [+1,410, -97] Fu*k off KARA, you dogs-Article: KARA makes their 'Damaged Lady' comeback, shirts + necktie 'strong androgynous charms' Source: Newsen via Nate1. [+1,986, -109] Sorry, it's already over for you guys2. [+1,865, -170] I don't even want to see them on TV. I really want all of these negative things about the idols to come out all at once so that they can fu*k off once and for all. All of them are sick with the celebrity disease when they're nothing but sl*ts. 3. [+1,569, -85] Show me an aegyo^^
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Post by hinata on Sept 6, 2013 16:41:10 GMT
Park Jin Young confirms 2PM as JYP's breadwinners, not Suzy Wednesday, September 04, 2013 park jin young, radio star 358 comments
Article: 'Radio Star' Park Jin Young "Suzy brings in $10 million, 2PM doubles Suzy"
Source: X Sports News via Nate
1. [+967, -81] KARA's really.. ㅋㅋ in front of a grand senior like Park Jin Young... the writers ask what they think of Park Jin Young and they reply that they don't really care.. KARA, please return to your roots.. Park Jin Young, do well~
2. [+552, -48] It's true that Suzy's amazing for all she's accomplished but I guess she isn't the breadwinner after all. Suzy and 2PM, fighting!
3. [+494, -51] Yeah, Suzy's not the breadwinner... 2PM is the one feeding JYP.
4. [+83, -9] I'm liking Park Jin Young's song. You can tell that he really put a lot of serious thought into it. As for KARA, I was deeply disappointed with their attitude and am just embarrassed for them all around.
5. [+54, -5] I think 2PM is more than double Suzy's... they make up around 80% of JYP's income.
6. [+44, -6] Yeah, Suzy's known as the breadwinner but the real money makers are 2PM..
7. [+38, -3] I could connect to everything Park Jin Young said today... it was an unexpected surprise, since you'd expect to be entertained by a variety show but instead I had my heart touched.
8. [+35, -3] It bothers me every time people call Suzy the breadwinner in all of her articles when it's really 2PM putting food on the table for JYP.
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Article: Goo Hara "When I was eliminated from JYP, Sunmi was chosen instead"
Source: Newsen via Nate
1. [+937, -28] Sunmi was chosen over her because she's obviously the better singer. And if KARA ever dares to come out on Radio Star again, they better expect death threats. They know that this is a diss program and they sit there asking not to be dissed? You only get top star treatment in Japan, don't expect the same in Korea too... and daebak at Seungyeon showing her temper. I can see why Gyuri isn't close with them.
2. [+773, -18] KARA's ego is about to poke the sky with how high it is~ They must think they're hot stuff but they're not that popular in Korea anymore~
3. [+628, -14] I'm starting to think that the rumors of Gyuri being ostracized in KARA might be true... She doesn't seem like she'd fit in with girls like that.
4. [+47, -5] I bet Park Jin Young saw her attitude on today's episode and thought to himself, "This is why I didn't pick her." ㅋ
5. [+42, -4] This broadcast was very telling in why Sunmi was chosen over you. -------------
Yoon Jong Shin and 'Radio Star' scriptwriter defend KARA Friday, September 06, 2013 goo hara, kara, radio star, yoon jong shin 374 comments
Article: Yoon Jong Shin speaks out about Goo Hara's attitude controversy, "It's my fault for pressing her"
Source: Seoul News via Naver
1. [+7,908, -322] Why is it that the innocent Yoon Jong Shin is apologizing but immature Goo Hara and Kang Jiyoung are doing nothing?? Do you two not have a mouth or fingers??
2. [+7,222, -250] Doesn't matter, KARA was a mess in the broadcast
3. [+6,446, -152] Hul.. why is Yoon Jong Shin apologizing.. The whole point of the show is about the disses. As if sucking at singing wasn't a crime enough, they're now making industry seniors apologize on behalf of them.. You girls are a mess.
4. [+6,080, -168] I really don't care for idol issues like this but... I really had a hard time stomaching their attitudes. I had to change the channel.
5. [+2,226, -56] Nice shot, Jong Shin hyung ㅋㅋㅋ Kill them two, no three more times by bringing the issue up again
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Article: 'Radio Star' scriptwriter Kim Tae Hee defends Goo Hara's attitude controversy "Don't hate on her"
Source: Sports World via Nate + Nate
1. [+1,990, -227] Oho~ Are you the one responsible for ruining Radio Star? ㅋㅋ What exactly did you learn with infinity Challenge that you're able to put Radio Star on the chopping block so often? ㅋㅋ We, the viewers, are the ones who saw that they were in the wrong. It doesn't matter what happened between you two or how nice they actually are, are you taking our own eyes to be as worthless as a dead fish's? Don't treat us like idiots
2. [+1,801, -93] They're the ones who edited the show and yet here they are saying oh no, don't hate on them. Anyone who's seen the broadcast is hating on KARA's attitude. Should've edited it differently if you didn't want to attract controversy. So stupid ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
3. [+1,700, -119] Amazing how they think they're in their own little league and the viewers aren't worth considering. Is Radio Star not a show meant for viewers but a show for their own satisfaction? The reason the show is so pouplar is because it was different from every other show.
4. [+847, -57] Scriptwriter, obviously you're personal friends with KARA so you're defending them ^^ and since you are a high position, they can't have a bad attitude with you. After reading an account from a broadcast audio staff member, I remember him saying that KARA was the most disrespectful of all idols and that he was scared to even face them. Seems like the girls bow down to any powerful figures. Regardless of all of this, since when was it okay for such young girls to throw water bottles at seniors and yell at them?
5. [+684, -22] As a chorus member, what I feel from experience is that you can't believe the words of PDs, scriptwriters, or anybody in a high position. Celebrities have to be nice to them to keep their jobs so they suck up to them a lot ㅋㅋ Broadcast staff will never know their real personalities
6. [+704, -55] KARA, T-ara, Goo Hara, Clara, the determination of the 'Ra'
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Post by ch3mist on Oct 4, 2013 10:00:29 GMT
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Post by cakama on Oct 4, 2013 10:11:18 GMT
Time for a career change then... *brushing the dust off his tarot cards* Smart choice for Nicole I would say, and not disregarding the success of KARA over the years... but all the credits been going to Hara than the other 4... I think its better for Jiyoung to take a break from showbiz to complete her studies too... She can't even land a proper acting role without being swapped at the last min... Their earnings is going down back to rookie level (close to).... and neither of them is getting any younger... But I reckon DSP media will someone who will reuse KARA's label name and just swap in new members and continue to leech on their past fame until one fine day its bone dry.
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Post by kanonno on Oct 4, 2013 19:21:22 GMT
It sad when a group like KARA is finally coming to an end.
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Post by cakama on Oct 4, 2013 22:02:21 GMT
It sad when a group like KARA is finally coming to an end. Well all good things have to come to an end, and duly so.... If the old front don't go, the new will forever be background characters...
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Post by kanonno on Oct 4, 2013 22:46:20 GMT
Well all good things have to come to an end, and duly so.... If the old front don't go, the new will forever be background characters... "5 Year curse" for idols.... fame never last.
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Post by cakama on Oct 4, 2013 23:31:59 GMT
"5 Year curse" for idols.... fame never last. Well its not really that fame doesn't last... But idol ages, yet the fandom base doesn't really. In the end, idol-hood have to end, Kpop have no place for old idols no matter how famous you used to be. For example BoA, Baek Ji-Young... even Rain. Example like SMAP, Arashi, Perfume and other evergreen artists will not exist in current Kpop culture.
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Post by kanonno on Oct 8, 2013 20:25:37 GMT
Well its not really that fame doesn't last... But idol ages, yet the fandom base doesn't really. In the end, idol-hood have to end, Kpop have no place for old idols no matter how famous you used to be. For example BoA, Baek Ji-Young... even Rain. Example like SMAP, Arashi, Perfume and other evergreen artists will not exist in current Kpop culture. well, I know that... that and Korean's are not that big on idols to begin with. Can't ride on you're popularity as an idol group member for ever.
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Post by cakama on Oct 8, 2013 20:33:02 GMT
well, I know that... that and Korean's are not that big on idols to begin with. Can't ride on you're popularity as an idol group member for ever. Well can't really say Korean is not big on idols, after all more than 60%-70% of the entire korean showbiz is filled with idols and former idols... So in a sense, being idols in Korean is a common thing, at the rate of debuts now, as long as you are missing a limp or two, you can basically be an idol. Not as hard as in the past when Kpop just started. Also when you grow out of idol age, you become just another normal korean in showbiz...
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Post by kanonno on Oct 8, 2013 20:34:46 GMT
Well can't really say Korean is not big on idols, after all more than 60%-70% of the entire korean showbiz is filled with idols and former idols... So in a sense, being idols in Korean is a common thing, at the rate of debuts now, as long as you are missing a limp or two, you can basically be an idol. Not as hard as in the past when Kpop just started. Also when you grow out of idol age, you become just another normal korean in showbiz... well, yea...idols are popular but a lot of older crowd just accepts the existence of them but is kinda meh. lol
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Post by cakama on Oct 8, 2013 20:41:02 GMT
well, yea...idols are popular but a lot of older crowd just accepts the existence of them but is kinda meh. lol Well there will always been new batch of young fans taking over the old every year as long as Kwave still exist... Older fans moves on with their life I guess, don't think much 25-30 fangirls will still go too gaga over Kpop idols that is much younger than them... Will you still be so hardcore on fandom when you reach that age group?
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Post by kanonno on Oct 8, 2013 21:04:38 GMT
Well there will always been new batch of young fans taking over the old every year as long as Kwave still exist... Older fans moves on with their life I guess, don't think much 25-30 fangirls will still go too gaga over Kpop idols that is much younger than them... Will you still be so hardcore on fandom when you reach that age group? I will still like some songs here and there yeah. Most Koreans are like that tho. They don't keep track of ever kpop idol.
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