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Post by cakama on Jul 29, 2013 17:38:04 GMT
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(Takahashi Minami, Minegishi Minami, Kojima Haruna) Status: on hiatus due to Takamina's solo career  French Kiss
(Kashiwagi Yuki, Takajo Aki, Kuramochi Asuka) Status: on hiatus due to Yukirin and Mocchi's solo career DiVA
(Akimoto Sayaka, Miyazawa Sae, Umeda Ayaka) + Dancers (Kasuya Satoko, Futami Yuuki, Furukawa Atsuko, Fukuno Ramu, Inoue Yuina, Yamagami Ayaka) Status: preparing to be active Watarirouka Hashiritai 7
(Watanabe Mayu, Ota Aika, Nakagawa Haruka, Kikuchi Ayaka, Iwasa Misaki, Komori Mika, [Temp]Urano Kazumi) Status: unknown since Komori's graduation, Harugon's transfer to JKT48 and Mayuyu's solo career Not yet
(Oshima Yuko, Sashihara Rino, Kitahara Rie, Yokoyama Yui) Status: Active Tentoumu Chu!
(Kojima Mako, Okada Nana, Nishimo Miki, Tashima Meru, Tomonaga Mio, Shibuya Nagisa, Kitagawa Ryoha) Status: Just formed~Reserved for OP~ OP tag: benstack ch3mist hinata kanonno jase oshiri |
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Post by cakama on Jul 29, 2013 17:40:33 GMT
With the upcoming KKS units, DiVA's performance, Not yet pending 5th single release...etc... Time to open the UNITs thread... And to kick off... NONAME - 希望について （First Kilalive Ver.）
NONAME - 夢は何度も生まれ変わる （First Kilalive Ver.）
「Yume wa Nandomo Umare Kawaru」 is still my all time favorite NONAME track... I can still relive episode 13 again and again... Opening thread tag: benstack ch3mist hinata kanonno jase oshiri |
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Post by ch3mist on Jul 29, 2013 18:13:21 GMT
「Yume wa Nandomo Umare Kawaru」 is still my all time favorite NONAME track... I can still relive episode 13 again and again. oshiri^ It's my 2nd fav NO NAME song, Kibou ni Tsuite is no.1  HD PV is still up on DM  oshiri |
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Post by cakama on Jul 29, 2013 18:16:24 GMT
Mini-contest #1
Guess who is the center of the Kenkyuusei Unit?Winner will receive an extra oshimen badge based on who he/she placed as the guess... Dateline until 2359hr Jul 30, JST Entries:- ch3mist - Merucakama - MakoHappy guessing, cos its not a easy tag: benstack hinata kanonno jase oshiri
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Post by ch3mist on Jul 29, 2013 18:29:24 GMT
Guess who is the center of the Kenkyuusei Unit?Winner will receive an extra oshimen badge based on who he/she placed as the guess. ~14% chance to win  Well I doubt it will be Miochan or Ryoha. Makes it 20% chance for the remaining 5 choices. Of course I want Nana to center it but I guess it won't happen.  Hm it would be weird if they put the youngest in the center but since the youngest is no less than Meru it's likely. IDK, I'm gonna say Meru  (Mana said either Miki or Nana ) ps: It's pure gambling again..maybe I'll change it again |
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Post by cakama on Jul 29, 2013 18:40:27 GMT
~14% chance to win Well I doubt it will be Miochan or Ryoha. Makes it 20% chance for the remaining 5 choices. Of course I want Nana to center it but I guess it won't happen. Hm it would be weird if they put the youngest in the center but since the youngest is no less than Meru it's likely. IDK, I'm gonna say Meru (Mana said either Miki or Nana ) ps: It's pure gambling again..maybe I'll change it again Haha... I'll accept the last entry behind the day ends.... As much as I adore Meru... its a 50/50 chance between Mako and her.... I'll pick MakoMiki will be the leader of the unit, but definitely not as center... Nana have a better chance but there is always 14th gen Ace Kojima Mako... Ryoha and Shibuya are really just making up the numbers and representation... Actually without the recent promotions... the ideal KKS unit is actually AKB48: Mako, Nana, Miki SKE48: Saya NMB48: Aika HKT48: Meru, Mio At least the 4 KKS Ace of each group is represented.... |
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Post by ch3mist on Jul 29, 2013 18:48:46 GMT
As much as I adore Meru... its a 50/50 chance between Mako and her.... I'll pick MakoMiki will be the leader of the unit, but definitely not as center... Nana have a better chance but there is always 14th gen Ace Kojima Mako... Nagisa is the oldest (soon turning 17). + She seems to have the charisma for making the leader. But Miki's presence + good MCing on kks stages would make her a viable choice as well. Maybe an AKB center would be more likely than sister group center but I don't want to pick Mako; Meru vs Nana to me  But I guess I stay with Meru (I'll feel bad if my oshimen Naachan will get the center and I didn't trust her to get it now  ) |
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Post by cakama on Jul 29, 2013 19:17:10 GMT
Nagisa is the oldest (soon turning 17). + She seems to have the charisma for making the leader. But Miki's presence + good MCing on kks stages would make her a viable choice as well. Maybe an AKB center would be more likely than sister group center but I don't want to pick Mako; Meru vs Nana to me But I guess I stay with Meru (I'll feel bad if my oshimen Naachan will get the center and I didn't trust her to get it now ) Well leader isn't about age... its about their control skills and earning the respect and trust of the members... Nagisa is really just another KKS in NMB48, but Miki is already the unofficial Captain of AKB48 KKS... Its really down to which member is the most charismatic.... People's choice (Mako) vs Aki-P's choice (Meru).... Gomen Nana have neither the recognition level from the fans and Aki-P... with MMM around, N is really down the alphabet order... MMM = Mako, Meru, Mio... sadly Miki isn't comparable to Nana else it will be M 4 |
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Post by ch3mist on Jul 29, 2013 19:35:40 GMT
Its really down to which member is the most charismatic.... People's choice (Mako) vs Aki-P's choice (Meru).... Gomen Nana have neither the recognition level from the fans and Aki-P... with MMM around, N is really down the alphabet order... MMM = Mako, Meru, Mio... sadly Miki isn't comparable to Nana else it will be M4 If it will be Mako center, Miko leader it feels like an AKB unit with random addition of sister groups. One role has to be given to a sister group (fyi Meru center in order to secure another badge, Ganbatte Meru! ) Well Nana is the most popular KKS by international fans if tumblr, twitter, forums are a valid evaluation method to measure their popularity. Not that international support is relevant for the decision hehe. Hmm I approve Nana, Meru, Miki but somehow I don't see Mako on their lvl but I rate different than you. |
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Post by cakama on Jul 29, 2013 19:50:06 GMT
If it will be Mako center, Miko leader it feels like an AKB unit with random addition of sister groups. One role has to be given to a sister group (fyi Meru center in order to secure another badge, Ganbatte Meru! ) Well Nana is the most popular KKS by international fans if tumblr, twitter, forums are a valid evaluation method to measure their popularity. Not that international support is relevant for the decision hehe. Hmm I approve Nana, Meru, Miki but somehow I don't see Mako on their lvl but I rate different than you. Well leader is just an unofficial title.... Technically this is just a 2 groups' unit... Ryoho and Shibuya are irrelevant here, their rapport level and performance level are not close to the top 5.. Meru and Mio is the current WCenter of HKT48, enuff credibility there.. Its really between Mako and Meru, both of them have center a number of songs in the KKS concert, it really depends on who AKS wants to push... light guess will be WCentre with Mako and Meru to avoid conflicts between both side's WOTA... Well international fans is irrelevant for most part, like their interest level in Acchan is lower than Tomochin... that doesn't even make any sense in Japan demography... Japanese and International fans all judged differently, China fans is closer to Japanese's standard... anyway international fans is only like 5% of the total AKB48 community.. (excluding China/Taiwan/Hong Kong) You haven't really spend time studying Mako (somedays such comments will come back to haunt you) |
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Post by ch3mist on Jul 29, 2013 22:28:48 GMT
Its really between Mako and Meru, both of them have center a number of songs in the KKS concert, it really depends on who AKS wants to push... light guess will be WCentre with Mako and Meru to avoid conflicts between both side's WOTA... Well international fans is irrelevant for most part, like their interest level in Acchan is lower than Tomochin... that doesn't even make any sense in Japan demography... Japanese and International fans all judged differently, China fans is closer to Japanese's standard... anyway international fans is only like 5% of the total AKB48 community.. (excluding China/Taiwan/Hong Kong) You haven't really spend time studying Mako (somedays such comments will come back to haunt you) I mean they don't need a 'fixed' center (if they're planning to make several song with that unit). For genki concepts it has to be Nana Meru, for cute ones Miki Mako would be more suited. Hehe Tomochin has been one of the most popular members among kpop forums indeed, followed by Mayu/Yuko I'd say. On tumblr there are tons of SKE supporters. I've barely seen international Yukirin WOTAs (besides Mana). Mariko seemed to be loved by everyone during her graduation days. Tumblr was filled with very nice comments and memories about her. I want to watch the AKB KKS concert.  It'll take some time to appear online I guess. Hm I watched quite a chunk of KKS theater stages though. Performance-wise she doesn't stand out if she performs between Miki/Nana. Their appeal is stronger right now (at least to me). Mako clearly has potential Maybe she'll be able to enter my list in future. 
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Post by cakama on Jul 30, 2013 5:23:04 GMT
I mean they don't need a 'fixed' center (if they're planning to make several song with that unit). For genki concepts it has to be Nana Meru, for cute ones Miki Mako would be more suited. Hehe Tomochin has been one of the most popular members among kpop forums indeed, followed by Mayu/Yuko I'd say. On tumblr there are tons of SKE supporters. I've barely seen international Yukirin WOTAs (besides Mana). Mariko seemed to be loved by everyone during her graduation days. Tumblr was filled with very nice comments and memories about her. I want to watch the AKB KKS concert. It'll take some time to appear online I guess. Hm I watched quite a chunk of KKS theater stages though. Performance-wise she doesn't stand out if she performs between Miki/Nana. Their appeal is stronger right now (at least to me). Mako clearly has potential Maybe she'll be able to enter my list in future. There need one.... mainly cos the center is also the face of the group... its hard to market the unit without a face... Even divine unit like No Sleeves and Not yet have face (Takamina and Yuko respectively) Having a face give both the unit and the fans an identity, without one they are just a mess of talents... nothing stands out... You need to widen your perspectives and drop the bias specs |
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Post by cakama on Jul 30, 2013 8:50:15 GMT
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Post by ch3mist on Jul 30, 2013 9:57:49 GMT
You need to widen your perspectives and drop the bias specs That opinion about the KKS theater stage was unbiased, since Miki isn't even on my list. But she's great, she stands out and manages it to get the viewers attention on stage; even in group performances. Mako isn't able to do so yet. She has a captivating smile but her performance isn't on the lvl of Miki, Nana, Moechan, Mogi, Miyupon, Miichan. |
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Post by cakama on Jul 30, 2013 10:00:58 GMT
That opinion about the KKS theater stage was unbiased, since Miki isn't even on my list. But she's great, she stands out and manages it to get the viewers attention on stage; even in group performances. Mako isn't able to do so yet. She has a captivating smile but her performance isn't on the lvl of Miki, Nana, Moechan, Mogi, Miyupon, Miichan. Mako sparkles, the rest don't, especially the 13th gen... Someday you will see their aura during performance, its a very different world from technical choreography...  |
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Post by ch3mist on Jul 30, 2013 10:16:19 GMT
Mako sparkles, the rest don't. Now that's biased.  She does in certain roles. I'm not speaking of execution of choreos anymore. I realised that quite some time ago. (I think that's mainly the reason why Hirari wasn't promoted earlier. There's nothing she stood out with on the KKS stage) Anyway if you put Mako in 'Junjou Shugi' performance she'd lose to Moechan, same for Miki's 'Pajama Drive', Mogi in 'Kagami no Naka no Jean Da Arc'. Mako seems to excel at slower paced, cheerful, cute concepts, she sparkles indeed in those kind of songs but energetic, sexy, strong ones ain't her comfort zone yet. (I guess you won't agree or like that comparison but currently she reminds me of Juri-chan to a certain extent. ) Meru is more versatile, she's basically suitable for anything. (Therefore she got my vote) |
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Post by cakama on Jul 30, 2013 10:30:30 GMT
Now that's biased. She does in certain roles. I'm not speaking of execution of choreos anymore. I realised that quite some time ago. (I think that's mainly the reason why Hirari wasn't promoted earlier. There's nothing she stood out with on the KKS stage) Anyway if you put Mako in 'Junjou Shugi' performance she'd lose to Moechan, same for Miki's 'Pajama Drive', Mogi in 'Kagami no Naka no Jean Da Arc'. Mako seems to excel at slower paced, cheerful, cute concepts, she sparkles indeed in those kind of songs but energetic, sexy, strong ones ain't her comfort zone yet. (I guess you won't agree or like that comparison but currently she reminds me of Juri-chan to a certain extent. ) Meru is more versatile, she's basically suitable for anything. (Therefore she got my vote) Now you are locked on performance's perspective... think about why Moe, Mogi haven't get promoted or push despite standing out and being so good? And you so-called worst of the lots KojiMako is the people's choice and management's choice.... so a lot of people including Aki-P is blind? Even if its just rolling the dices, at least she is lucky... but she definitely have so much potential and sparkles that convinced not just one old Dino, but at least tens of thousand of fans and management staffs... There is definitely something you are not seeing bro... big something... |
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Post by cakama on Jul 30, 2013 20:18:08 GMT
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Post by cakama on Jul 31, 2013 11:55:36 GMT
New KKS unit name is " Tentoumu Chu!" The single is called " Kimi dake ni chu! chu! chu!" Kojima Mako is the center for the new unit "Tentoumu Chu!"  Arigato ch3mist -san  Tentoumu Chu! tag: benstack hinata kanonno jase oshiri |
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Post by cakama on Jul 31, 2013 12:06:50 GMT
Formation of 「Kimi dake ni chu! chu! chu!」
Ryoha、Meru、Mio、Shibuya Nana、Miki Mako As expected, this unit is created specially for KojiMako Mako! Mako! KojiMako! Tentoumu Chu! tag: benstack ch3mist hinata kanonno jase oshiri
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